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娜塔利·库克——现实生活中的劳拉克劳馥
Hi Natalie,
嗨，娜塔利
Hello Ash!
你好，Ash！
Thank you for joining us today! Dare I say you look absolutely fantastic and it’s hard to imagine it’s been twenty years since you were Lara’s model!
感谢你今天接受我们的采访！我敢说你看起来绝对棒极了，很难想象你当劳拉的模特已经二十年了！
Thank you, nor can I [she laughs]!
谢谢你，没有没有[她微笑]！
So let’s go back to 1996 then, how did you become Lara Croft?
让我们回到1996年，你是如何成为劳拉模特的？
Well, Eidos at the time were looking for a model to be Lara Croft and my agent gave me a call. She said to me “You know your brown contact lenses that you’ve got from your previous job as Snow-white for Disney? Can you put them in and go for the casting and see how it goes? They [Eidos] stipulated that they wanted a model with brown eyes, athletic-looking and with a nice-sized bust.” There were lots of girls and I thought that I wasn’t going to get this job… and yes so I just went for this interview. They asked me a few questions. It was twenty years ago and I can’t quite remember what they were asking… and yeah, my agent gave me a call and said that they [Eidos] wanted to use me as Lara Croft.
嗯，当时Eidos正寻找一个劳拉模特然后我的经纪人打电话给我。她对我说：“你知道你的棕色隐形眼镜吗，就是你以前扮演迪士尼的白雪公主用过的。你能把以前经验融入进去吗，看看他们是否会喜欢？他们[Eidos]想找一个模特，棕色的眼睛，体格健美和一个完美的胸围。“有很多的女孩一起面试，我以为我不会得到这份工作…恩，我只是去面试。他们问了我几个问题。这是二十年前，我不记得他们问了什么…之后我的经纪人给我打电话，说他们[Eidos]想让我作为劳拉的模特。
How much did you know about the character when you first dressed as Lara?
你对这个角色了解多少？当你第一次穿上劳拉的衣服时。
Well, not very much… they didn’t really say too much about her. I think because she was quite new at the time, and the character was in the early days of development. I think as the years have gone on they’ve adapted her so much and they changed the way she looked, like ridiculously, she’s completely unrecognisable from that picture there [she points on my t-shirt with classic Lara] to what she looks like now!
嗯，不是很多，他们并没有太多介绍。我认为，因为在那时她是相当新的角色，性格也在早期形成中。我想这么多年了他们已经塑造了她的性格，他们也在完善她的样子，像有趣儿，现在完全无法从那张照片辨认劳拉[她指着我的T恤和经典劳拉]现在是什么样子！
Do you remember any other girls who were at ECTS?
你还记得在ECTS展（注：欧洲计算机商贸展示会）上的其他的女孩吗？
I do, at the computer show [ECTS] there was this girl called Katie Price who’s gone on to be really famous and another girl whose name I can’t remember but I do remember that me and Katie didn’t quite gel with her. Me and Katie were really enjoying what we were doing and the other girl didn’t seem like she was enjoying herself.
记得，在ECTS展上有一个很著名的女孩叫凯蒂和另一个女孩我不记清她的名字，但我记得我和凯蒂没有得到她好感。我和凯蒂真的很喜欢我们所扮演的角色，另一个女孩似乎不喜欢自己的角色。
Natalie Cook on the left, Katie Price on the right. ECTS, (1996). Olympia, London
娜塔利库克在左边，凯蒂皮尔斯在右边。（1996）奥林匹亚、伦敦ECTS展
So I’d imagine you were the lead model. How were your relations with the other two at that expo? Were you three having fun portraying Lara?
所以我想象你是模特的主角。你和其他两个模特在展会上的关系怎么样？你们三怎么描绘劳拉的？
Yeah, we were told to just run around, pretend to sort of shoot people, and basically “kick arse” – that’s what they told us to do, so we had great fun doing that [she laughs]
是这样的，告诉我们要来回跑动，假装开枪，基本上“翘着屁股”——这就是他们告诉我们的，所以我们有很大的乐趣。[她大笑着]
How did you feel at ECTS? Did anything unusual happen?
在ECTS展上你感觉怎么样？有什么不寻常的事情发生吗？
I can’t remember anything unusual but I do remember that we had such a great time portraying a woman that, you know, men were fearful of. She was used to getting it her own way and basically we used that to our advantage. And the guns that we had were quite realistic and we just had a great time.
我不记得有什么不寻常的事但我记得我们在一个重要的时刻去塑造一个令男人感动汗颜的女人。我们基本上我们擅长的方式去演绎她。我们很真实的用枪摆造型，我们在那样一个重要的展会期间。
There’s one mysterious detail we noticed on one of your early photos. What is this notepad you have? Also there’s a signature on your shirt. Do you remember anything about it?
我们注意到有一个小的细节在你的早期照片里。你有什么标记。还有你的衬衫上的签名。你还记得吗？
Hmm, no I don’t remember what that is [she looks closely at the picture]. Oh it might have been the game!
嗯，我不记得那是什么[她很亲切的看着照片]。哦，这可能是游戏中的！
As for the signature, that was Björn Borg, the tennis player. At the time, these were white tops and they didn’t have “Tomb Raider” written on them there. And obviously when they chose me to be Lara’s model to go to the places all over England, they changed my outfit to be more thematic.
是网球运动员Björn Borg的签名。当时，这些白色的上衣没有“古墓丽影”的图案。然而，当他们选择我成为劳拉的模特去英国各地，他们塑造了我衣服的主题。
Important question. Have you played the game?
问一个重要的问题。你玩过游戏吗？
I did, but not very well [she laughs]. I remember playing at a few launches and I remember kids were sitting next to me and also playing, and I remember I was really bad at it.
我玩过，但玩的不好。[她笑着]。我记得开枪射击，我还记得孩子们坐在我旁边玩，我记得我的水平不高。
Did you try to play any other Tomb Raider games? Do you follow the series at all? Do you like the new version of Lara?
你还玩过其他的古墓丽影游戏吗？你追随这个游戏系列吗？你喜欢新版本的劳拉吗？
I don’t [follow the franchise], no. I should really. I can obviously tell when I go to the shops and see the demos and posters and I can tell that the graphics have changed enormously since the time I was Lara.
我没有[延续特许权]，我真的应该追随。当我走进商店看见新的游戏试玩画面和海报，我只能说，这和我代言劳拉时已经有了巨大的改变。
Other Lara models after you had some strict terms and conditions such as “no talking in the costume”. Were you under any such conditions?
像其他劳拉模特一样，你有一些严格纪律和规定吗，例如“着装时不说话”。你也是这样吗？
No, they never told me that I wasn’t allowed to talk in the costume. I was walking around talking to people because people wanted to speak to me about the game or about Lara.
没有，他们从来没有告诉我不允许着装时说话。我和人们交流，因为人们想和我谈论关于的游戏或者关于劳拉。
In this picture you’re with some people from Core Design including Toby Gard and the legendary Ian Livingstone. Did you speak to any of them? Were they giving you advice and directions on how to portray Lara?
在这张照片中你和水晶动力的托比·加德和传奇人物伊恩·利文斯通。你和他们说话了吗？他们给你一些建议和指导如何演绎劳拉？
No, they just said that she was sort of a “bad-ass”, “kick-ass” woman that is not to be messed with and she knows what she wants in her life and she’ll go out and get it.
没有，他们只是说，她是一个“执着”，“有活力”不会被糊弄的女人，她知道她想要在她的生活，她会行动，然后得到它。
Natalie Cook, Katie Price with Jeremy Heath-Smith, Toby Gard and Core Design. ECTS (1996), Olympia, London.
娜塔莉库克、凯蒂普莱斯和杰米海德史密斯，水晶动力托比·加德。ECTS（1996年），伦敦奥林匹亚。
I know that Toby shouted “I created you!” at Katie and she just walked off swiftly.
我知道托比大喊“我创造了你！”在凯蒂和她刚刚擦肩而过。
[She laughs] I wonder what she said back
[她笑]我不知道她说了什么。
Oh no, she just walked away
哦，不，她只是走开了
Oh did she? [She laughs]
哦，是吗？[她笑着]
Tell us about the video advert that featured you dressed as Lara? How long did it take to film?
和我们讲讲关于劳拉的那个视频介绍？这个视频多长时间？
It was a night shoot at some sort of disused warehouse/factory and it was a 12-hour shoot. I remember I got there at 6 in the evening and left at 6 in the morning. It was all outside and it was quite a cold day as well so I was very, very cold. Unfortunately, it is not me doing the back-flips. My children think it was me. They’re like, “mum, I didn’t know you could do that! Show me!” and I’m like, “yeah, not now, I hurt my leg” [she laughs].
这是在一个废弃的仓库/工厂拍的视频，拍摄了12个小时。我记得我们晚上6点到那里，早上6点离开的。在室外，而且很冷，所以我给冻的很冷。其实，不是我做的后空翻。我的孩子们认为是我。他们说，“妈妈，我不知道你可以这样做！来一个!”我喜欢，“是的，现在不行，我的腿受伤了“[她笑着]。
They had a firearms expert there as well to teach me how to fire real guns, which was fantastic! There were just lots of explosions…
他们也有一个武器专家，教我如何射击真正的枪，这非常有趣！有很多的枪声…
Were they real guns?
是用的真枪？
Yes, they were real guns that I was using on set. Obviously there were blanks in them, but yeah they were real!
是真枪，我正在检查它。很明显，它没有子弹，但是它是真的！
Did you expect the game to become so popular and Lara to turn into an iconic character?
你有想到游戏会变成这么受欢迎，劳拉变成一个标志性的人物吗？
No, not when I was here doing the shows, no. ECTS was the very first show that we did. I never ever thought that it would [become so popular]. It was when they chose me to be the official Lara Croft model and I went to do the launches for the game in different places I realised how big she was. All these fans were so interested in the game and the game was being labelled as one of the most amazing computer games of that generation. And obviously having a woman as a protagonist was incredible and new.
当时我做模特时，没有。在ECTS展是我们做的第一个表演。我真的从来没有想过，它会[变得如此受欢迎]。当他们选我做为劳拉的模特和我去过不同的地方之后，我意识到她的影响力是多么大。所有这些粉丝是如此的对游戏感兴趣，被标记为一个最受欢迎的一代电脑游戏的标志。显然一个女人作为一个主角是令人难以置信的和全新的。
Ever went as Lara to a fancy dress party?
你曾经打扮成劳拉去参加化装舞会吗？
I don’t really go to that many fancy dress parties, but it could be an option! I never really thought of it actually! It is funny because we do have a fancy dress costume shop down the road from us and a Lara Croft outfit is in there and it is quite a nice one!
我真不经常去化装舞会，但它是一个不错的选择！我从来没有真正想过这个问题！不过有趣的是，这条街往下我们有一个化妆舞会服装店，里面有一套劳拉装备，非常特别！
I know you’ve seen the Tomb Raider films, what are your thoughts on them?
我知道你看过古墓丽影电影，你怎么想？
I thought it was very good, I think they cast it very well. Angelina Jolie played an amazing part. It probably would have been better if they had a British actress, considering that she [Lara] is British… but she [Angelina] did fit the bill.
我认为非常好，我认为他们展现的很好。安吉丽娜·朱莉扮演的非常精彩。也许如果他们有一个英国女演员更好，考虑到她[劳拉]是英国…但她[安吉丽娜]也并符合要求。
You know they’re making a third film right? You should definitely go for it!
你知道他们即将拍摄第三部电影吗？我认为你一定要去！
Are they? Oh I did, back then when they were making the first film someone from Eidos called me and said that there might be an opportunity for me to have a small part in the film, but it never really happened…never mind
是吗？哦，我应该，拍摄第一部电影时Eidos给我打电话了，说有有机会让我在电影中扮演一个小角色，但它从来没有让我演…不过没关系。
What are you up to these days?
之后你的生活有什么变化？
Well, since being Lara Croft I did a couple of high-profile things after that. And then I had four children since then and I’m now a full-time mum and I love it!
嗯，自从扮演劳拉以后我和丈夫的生活改善了很多。然后我有四个孩子，从那时起我变成一个全职妈妈，我喜欢这样！
I know that you write songs and play music…
我知道你写歌和喜欢音乐…
Yeah, not really much going on there. I was supposed to bring out a record as Lara Croft and it was called “Raiders”. I recorded it in the studio and then the song was dropped…
是的，不是很多。我本来要做一个劳拉“攻略”。我把它录下来，然后没有做下去…
Did you know Rhona Mitra, who was the model right after you, recorded an album as Lara?
你知道罗娜·蜜特拉吗？她是在你之后的劳拉模特，拍摄了一个劳拉专辑。
Oh yes I’m aware of it, haven’t heard it though
哦，是的，我知道，但没有看过。
It’s rather awful to be fair, perhaps you should consider correcting this?
坦白地说，对你这会有威胁，也许你应该考虑声明一下吗？
Yeah! It is an option! Yeah! I’ll think of that!
是啊!这是一个不错的主意！我会考虑！
Thank you so much for coming here today!
非常感谢你今天做客这里！
Oh you’re welcome!
哦，谢谢！
